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The Secret - part 26 By DoggyStyle57 - October 2014

12/9/2012

Once the table had been cleared and everyone was settled in the living room, Melanie looked at Corwyn and Donna Grant and said, "My mother and I have both told Karl that the two of you have also had to deal with 'precocious' and unexpected behaviors with your own children. He knows now that your son and daughter frequently enjoy having sex with each other, and that you've both had sex with them too. Could you tell us how you came to accept that your son and daughter mate with each other, and to accept mating with them yourselves?"

"Yes, that's quite true about our kids, and we won't deny it," the attractive doe admitted, blushing slightly. "In May of 1998 we became the High Priest and High Priestess of the Coven. It was already our Coven's tradition that the High Priest and High Priestess perform a full-sex fertility rite at Beltane. That means that anyone over fourteen who wants to perform the rites with them is allowed to, and was their choice to mate with their leaders actually, or only symbolically. Just so you'll know, most Wiccan or Druid groups only do a symbolic fertility rite in public for Beltane, and don't get as openly sexual as we do. Several years earlier I'd been sterilized by means of a tubal ligation, and Corwyn had gotten a vasectomy, so there was no chance I could get pregnant or that Corwyn could impregnate any of the ladies, and we were quite happy to continue this coven's tradition of the full sex fertility rites. The first time that we officiated the fertility rite, our son Steve, who was just two days away from his 13th birthday, and our daughter Lin, who had just turned 9, watched in fascination as nineteen men and older boys of the Coven filled me with their seed, and as Corwyn filled the bellies of sixteen women and young girls, including taking the virginity of Dianna Everett, a bunny girl who had just turned 14."

"The next year, just before the Beltane celebration in 1999, our son Steve, who was almost 14, told us that he wanted to do the full fertility rite with me that year - to mate with his mother in front of the whole Coven. He said that for his birthday present, he wanted me to publicly take his virginity, the way his father had taken the virginity of his friend Dianna the previous year," Donna said, blushing again. "Corwyn and I discussed the idea, called almost all of our friends in the Coven, and no one had any objections, as long as it was all consensual. The fact that he wouldn't reach the age of consent for sex between a child and an adult for two more days was inconsequential, since his mating with his mother would still be incest, and illegal. But everyone in the Coven knew I was 'fixed', so they accepted that it made little difference if Steve wanted to cum inside me as part of the ritual, as long as we were both willing. So Corwyn and I agreed that Steve could have sex with me that next weekend."

"When we began the fertility ritual, my son was the eighth male to get into the line at the altar. It was... actually quite a beautiful experience, when he took his turn with me," Donna said wistfully. "Steve didn't just step up and fuck me when it was his turn, and then make room for the next male, the way the men and boys before him did. He actively worshiped me, as our avatar of the Goddess. After quickly cumming inside me, he dropped to his knees and licked me to an orgasm, even though seven other males had deposited their seed in my vagina before he added his own to that sloppy mess. And he praised me and praised the Goddess before he let the next male mate with me. Much to my delight, he started a new tradition, as several of the other males followed his example. Later, I asked where he had gotten the idea to lick me like that, since he had never been with a girl before. He said he had read about a guy licking a girl after sex in a naughty paperback book he had borrowed from an older friend at school."

"After the ritual was over, we told him that he could do it again each year, but that the annual Beltane ritual would be the only time he could have sex with me, and we encouraged him to find a girlfriend to satisfy his needs," Donna said. "He accepted that restriction, and later that night he had sex for the first time with a few of the girls close to his age who were at the Beltane event. After that weekend he dated several girls in our Coven, but he didn't manage to find a steady girlfriend that year. There weren't any does his age in our Coven or in the Druid grove, other than his little sister; and the canine, vixen and bunny girls that he knew weren't that interested in mating with a hair-trigger buck a second time, after trying the experience with my son, or with his father."

"Then in late October of 2000, the weekend before our Samhain celebration, Corwyn and I had to be away from our children, getting the hall at the park cleaned up for the next week's festivities. Lin was too easily nauseated by the paint fumes, so both of our kids were left at home. Steve was quite responsible at fifteen, so he was asked to babysit his little sister. Lin was twelve, and since she hadn't come into estrus that year near the start of October, we thought we had another year before she would become fertile and want to mate. We had already talked to her about sex, of course, but she had told us wasn't interested in sex or dating yet, so we hadn't yet put her on birth control," Donna continued. "But that weekend, Lin came into season unexpectedly, and she was overcome with an intense urge to mate. Steve couldn't resist Lin's sudden, intoxicating surge of pheromones, and he eagerly took his little sister's virginity. To his credit, he did try to use a condom. A few weeks earlier he had begun dating Dianna Everett , so he had bought some condoms recently, hoping to use them with his bunny girlfriend on their next date. But he had accidentally bought the wrong kind of condoms. They were shaped for a large breed dog instead of for a deer, and it slipped off inside Lin when he mated with her."

Donna paused, sighing as she thought how close her children had come to conceiving a child together on their first mating. "With his cum already deposited deep inside her, they decided protection didn't matter, and they mated several more times that night while paying no further heed to the risk that he might get her pregnant. Once the pheromone-induced rutting of her first heat faded, their minds cleared enough for them to realize that Steve really did need to use a condom with his sister, every time if at all possible. So the next morning he bought the right kind of condoms, and they secretly continued mating every chance they got after that, usually sneaking into each other's bedrooms at night. We didn't realize what they were up to until nearly two months later, when I found two used condoms in the toilet, which Steve had unsuccessfully tried to flush away. We confronted them privately by the lakeside several days later, at Yule. By then, they had been lovers for two months, and were nearly inseparable. They pleaded quite eloquently with us to allow them to continue making love to each other, and it became clear that they were Lifemates. We handfasted them on the spot, got Lin on the Pill, and said that they could continue as mates. In 2002, when Lin was 14, she asked her father if she could also publicly perform the full Beltane rite with him. We agreed that Lin could mate with her father in the annual ritual, just as her brother had been mating with me."

"But that's the _only_times you've mated with your kids? The annual Beltane ritual?" Karl asked. "You let your son and daughter fuck each other freely in your home, but you didn't join them more often than once a year? Even... after your son did so well at pleasuring you?"

"Well... not quite," Donna admitted. "We do publicly mate with them only once each year, at Beltane. But six years ago, just before they went away to college, they asked to have a foursome with us in our home. They said it was to thank us for continuing to allow them to be lovers, and for co-signing the lease on the apartment that they were going to be living in together at college, as if they were married. And since then, they also mate with us when they come home to visit for the holidays - usually several times during each visit. I'll confess, we all do enjoy the closeness that comes from that, for all that it may be a taboo practice. They'll be home for Winter break in about a week, and we'll probably mate with them again several times over the next few weeks."

Then Donna smiled at Karl and said, "You seem very interested in how often we've been mating with our children, Karl. Could it be that you and Melanie have a similar interest? Have your precocious kids already managed to get you into bed with them?"

When Karl seemed slow to reply, Melanie nodded and said, "Yes, Karl and I have each had sex with both Ryan and Hans. The kids initiated it, a week ago on Saturday, and we all agreed we were okay with the idea, before anyone crossed the line. I've had sex with Hans and with Ryan, and Karl's had sex with Ryan, and he has also allowed 'Hannah' to suck his cock and he's fucked Hannah's ass. Having sex with his son has been one of the strongest healing influences between Karl and Hans. Karl hasn't yet sucked a male's cock, or had his own ass fucked with anything other than my strap-on dildo, but he understands better how his son can enjoy gay sexual activities. Once we started with the kids, I wanted Karl and I to try some other variations with my family members, before settling down with each other when we marry, though we may want to continue to have an ongoing relationship with our kids even after we're married. So that night, without the kids present, Karl and I discussed incest with my parents. They assured us of their acceptance that we're mating with the kids, and then with my father's permission, Karl and I both had sex with my mom, while dad watched the kids. Karl's even agreed to try mating with my father sometime soon, both giving and receiving, and to watch while I mate with my dad. I may also try mating with my brother, but I haven't talked to him about that yet. "

"I was reluctant at first to allow the kids to mate with us, but Melanie and the kids insisted they wanted to try it, and Melanie assured me that her parents and the coven members were likely to accept it," Karl said. "Since you have experience with mating with your kids, and even have done it publicly at coven gatherings, we're hoping you can guide us in how best to proceed, so that we don't cause problems for ourselves or for the coven because of what we are doing with each other. Of course, there is no way we could allow my parents to know about the incest, and I probably couldn't even share that information with my brothers. Manfred and Sammy will probably be told about Hannah, since Sammy could advise my son about cross-dressing - both the good things and bad things that he's encountered as a male who is publicly living as a female. I'll probably also allow Manfred and Sammy to know that I've tried gay sex, without giving them any details of who I did it with."

"We both really enjoyed havin' sex with mom an' dad," Hannah said. "I wanted daddy to understand me better, and it really helped us when he had sex with me. And mom is so sexy, and great in bed! But they said we can only join them in bed a few times each month. We're okay with that, because me an' Ryan can still mate with each other every day, an' we do!"

"Yeah! Daddy's a great lover, an' it was so cool licking mommy and having her lick me, right after daddy fucked me an' Hans fucked mom!" Ryan added. "I love Hans to pieces, and we make out every day now, but it's neat to be able to have sex with mom and dad too. Grandma and Grandpa Kelley know we're all mating with each other, but we understand that they don't wanna have sex with us, an' that okay."

"Yes, my parents don't mind that we've started to enjoy a sexual relationship with Hans and Ryan, but they personally aren't attracted to such young partners, and they want to have a more normal relationship with their grandchildren," Melanie said. "They probably won't even be mating all that often with Karl and I, but it will be something special that we can share occasionally."

"I see," Donna said. "Well, those choices are up to you, and I can't really speak against them, given that we mate our own kids and allow them to live very nearly as man and wife. It certainly seems to have improved how Karl gets along with his son, and you all seem quite happy with the arrangements. Aside from it being incest, the biggest concern the four of you should have going forward is the age difference. The children are close enough in age that there is no problem with them mating with each other, as long as no one, especially you as their parents, raises a complaint about them mating. And they aren't related by blood, so they could even marry each other when they are old enough. But even setting aside the issue of incest, a child can't legally consent to sexual relations with an adult in this state until they are fourteen years old. Still, even as young as they are, you're right that most of the coven, quite possibly even all of them, probably won't be bothered that you're mating with your family members, any more than they worry about Lin and Steve mating with each other or with us. But if it became public knowledge that adults in the coven were mating with kids under fourteen, the legal issues and negative publicity could be very bad for all of us. For that reason, you won't usually find any adult publicly mating with a child under 14 at any of our gatherings, or admitting that they do so in any public venue. There_are_ a few other families in our coven that also practice sex between parents and their very young children, or at least accept the concept and hold harmless others who do so. With your kids being so young, I would suggest that initially you should only admit your family affairs with those families, at least until Hans and Ryan are both older than fourteen. Karl? Have you met Archie and Hera Everett, and their daughters, Dianna and Rainbird? Lop eared bunny family? Archie is 50, his wife is 49, and their daughters are 28 and 12, respectively."

"I think I met the older couple briefly at the Samhain celebration, yes. I didn't talk much to them though. Their kids are twenty eight and twelve? They waited sixteen years between kids?" Karl asked.

"They waited for Dianna to mature sexually, before Archie fathered a second child... with his daughter. Hera didn't want to go through childbirth again, but by the time she was fourteen, Dianna was quite willing to allow her father to try to impregnate her. Immediately after Corwyn took Dianna's virginity at our 1998 Beltane celebration, both of her parents took her to their tent, and started having sex with their 14 year old daughter on a regular basis. Corwyn's seed was probably still warm in Dianna's vagina when her father added his own to it, and her mother licked the girl clean," Donna said. "They didn't admit that to us that they were sharing their daughter in bed and intentionally _trying_to get Dianna pregnant until a year and a half later, when their Dianna got a positive result with a home pregnancy test kit. That child, Rainbird, is Dianna's sister, but is also her daughter; and is Archie's daughter, but also his granddaughter. Dianna's mother, Hera, faked a pregnancy and home-schooled her daughter for two years, while delivering her granddaughter at home, and claiming to be the child's mother. We protected them by being the legal witnesses when Rainbird's home delivery birth was registered, and attested that Rainbird was the child of Archie and Hera. Fortunately, Hera is a nurse/midwife, and Archie is an emergency medical technician, and works at the Fox Hollow General Hospital's emergency room. They were well prepared to deal with a natural childbirth, outside the hospital. Rainbird knows the truth of her parentage, and a few years ago, she also became her father's lover, by her own choice. On Rainbird's tenth birthday, Archie took his youngest child's virginity, and the child had sex with her mother and grandmother, and all four of them now mate with each other every night. But as far as I know, they aren't interested in mating with any children other than their own. It would be quite safe to talk to them about the issues a family can encounter when parents and their young children mate frequently. They would also be good people to call on if you have an 'accident' with Ryan, and she gets pregnant."

"Wow... they intentionally knocked up their own daughter? Well... Ryan and Melanie are both very good about taking their birth control pills, and we're trying very hard to make sure we don't get Ryan pregnant, and that Hans doesn't get Melanie pregnant. But yes, I can see where knowing someone who could handle an unplanned and 'questionable' birth would be wise. Who else could we trust?" Karl asked.

"Bobby and Debbie Deary, our other active bunny family, would also be safe to talk to," Donna said. "They haven't had sex with any kids yet, to my knowledge. But they came to us recently and admitted that they enjoy porn that features young kids, and that they are seriously considering having sex with their twin ten year old daughters, Peggy and Penny. Both girls are already on birth control pills, as a precaution. So far, they have refrained from having sex with their girls, but they want to do it as soon as the twins show an interest in mating. "

"But their kids already do wanna have sex! I know Peggy and Penny! And so does Ryan!" Hannah said. "They've already popped their own cherries with a dildo their mom gave them, but they haven't had real sex yet, except that Peggy's been licked once by a girl at school, and at a sleepover at Michelle's place, just a couple of weeks ago, they tried licking each other, and ummm, Ryan licked them and they licked her. An' we met their mom an' dad, too. Their daddy likes wearing dresses in public just like I do! The twins invited me and Ryan to their eleventh birthday party, in March, and said that at the party, their mom and dad wanted to watch while I became the first boy to have sex with them!"

"Oh? Well, then it seems it won't be long before they are all mating with each other, just as you do," Donna replied. "Bobby and Debbie would definitely enjoy watching their girls performing with both of you, in front of them. They're both bisexual, so don't be too surprised if they make a move on one or both of you kids. And yes, Bobby is an out of the closet cross dresser, Hannah. He can probably teach you a lot about how to pretend to be a girl. Karl, Melanie, I do think your kids will be safe with the Deary family. Despite the parents' interest in sex with kids, they are all very loving and gentle people, just like the two of you are, and I couldn't imagine any of them forcing a child to do anything against their will."

"Might be fun to have sex with their parents too," Hannah said. "Would you wanna do that Ryan?"

"I'm not sure. Maybe?" Ryan said. "I'd have to get to know them better first."

"I guess I will call them then," Karl said. "I'd been hesitating. It isn't exactly a normal thing, to call someone up and ask if it's all right for their ten year old daughters to get fucked by an eight year old boy. But if they already do accept kids having sex that young, I guess we can trust them. I suppose, if the kids want to, we can even allow Bobby and Debbie to mate with our kids. But I really don't want them mating with a lot of adults."

"You should be able to trust both families completely, Karl," Corwyn said. "But beyond those two families, I wouldn't spread it around much farther. About the only other family you might be able to trust, at least for talking to them about kids having sex with each other at such a young age, and for advice about dealing with a cross-dressing boy, would be Ted and Katie Edwards - the Corgi couple that are Michelle's parents. They don't have sex with Michelle, and I haven't heard either of them talk acceptingly about kids and their parents mating, other than to tell us it didn't bother them to see us mating with our kids at Beltane, and that they accept Steve and Lin's relationship with each other. But they do accept that Michelle is already sexually active, and accept her transgender nature. So Hans and Ryan wouldn't bother them, even with Hans dressing like a girl. They also have an open marriage, and they both occasionally have sex with Andrew and Colleen. If you and Melanie want to seek another adult couple to have a foursome with, they should be a good choice. They are both bisexual, though Ted is very much in the closet, and only his closest friends, like Andrew and Colleen, know he has sex with other males. Even if they don't approve of you two having sex with Hans and Ryan, they are good enough friends of Melanie's parents that they would probably keep that sort of thing a secret, as long as the kids were not being forced."

"Yeah, I went to Michelle's last sleepover birthday party as Hannah, with Ryan, and Michelle's parents liked how l looked as a girl, and didn't act weird when I changed back into a boy the next morning, before we left," Hannah said. "Ummm, so you really think it will be okay for me to marry Ryan eventually, even if her mom marries my dad?"

"From what we found out while checking into our own children's situation, you'll have an easier time of it than they will," Donna said. "The law in this state doesn't list 'siblings by marriage' as prohibited relations when applying for a marriage license. If there is no blood relationship, and it isn't something like a step-father wanting to marry his step daughter, it should be legal."

"Well, I don't wanna marry daddy Karl, but what about having sex with him? Would that be okay for me to do?" Ryan asked.

"After you're sixteen, he would be legal for you, but your mother would not be, Ryan," Donna said. "And that goes for Hans, as well. When Hans is sixteen, Melanie would be legal for him to mate with, though not to marry. Karl would not be."

"You said they would have a better time than your own kids?" Karl asked. "Are Lin and Steve considering getting married?"

"Yes. You see, Steve and Lin are living as man and wife already," Corwyn said. "When they graduate, they plan to continue living as if they were a married couple, and even to have children together. This state doesn't recognize a common law marriage, and won't allow full-blood siblings to marry or form a domestic partnership. But there are other states that do recognize a common law marriage, and don't check very closely when one is registered. If they move to one of those states, and just tell everyone they are married, who would know otherwise? They could still have a Wiccan ceremony, presided over by us or by some other priest and Priestess who were willing to overlook them being siblings, and could make it all appear perfectly legal. Ryan and Hans could also go the common law marriage route, after they are sixteen, if they had trouble marrying otherwise."

"Cool, because me and Ryan are really enjoying being mates!" Hannah said enthusiastically.

"Well, if you children are that serious about each other, and if the four of you do plan to continue having sex with each other, perhaps we should make a change to the handfasting ceremony?" Donna said. "The members of our Coven and our friends in the Druid Grove will soon know that Hans and Ryan are a devoted couple. Many already know and accept that they are mated. What if we make it a double handfasting? Officially, it would still not be binding on the children. They wouldn't be old enough at the end of a year and a day to make a final decision to commit to marriage. But it could be accepted by our Coven as a symbolic commitment, and a promise for when they are both old enough. And privately, it _would_be a solemn commitment before the Goddess between all four of you, to love and cherish each other. When Karl and Melanie get married, we could do something similar - give the children what appears to be a supporting role, beside their parents - but before the Goddess, we would be committing all four of you to each other, in a plural marriage. Would that be to your liking?"

"I think that would be beautiful!" Melanie said eagerly. "Karl? What do you think?"

"I guess that would work," Karl said. "In a way it even puts my own heart more at ease, because what we do with each other wouldn't be 'cheating', in terms of our vows to each other. Kids? Do you want to make it that official?"

"Yeah!" both kids said at once, before they both started giggling.

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They paused for dessert, and then continued in the living room.

"Karl? It does worry me that your parents may not accept you and your son converting to the Wiccan faith, or you marrying a collie girl." Donna said. "Unfortunately, inter-faith and inter-species marriages often do cause issues with family members, and we've helped our members deal with their families' resistance before. Do you think there is anything we could do to help smooth things over with your parents? Maybe if they understood our faith better, they could accept that you aren't forsaking most of the ethical values that they taught you, but rather are accepting a different way of expressing them?"

"That's an elegant thought, but I'm afraid it will be wasted on them," Karl said. "I agree with you that aside from their irrational hatred of homosexuals, and their belief that purebreds should only breed with other purebreds, most of the other ethical choices they taught me to make in life are supported by the Wiccan faith. I think the only way to deal with their homophobia is never to let them know about that part of our lives. If I marry Melanie and we have at least one kid, and if Hans and Ryan become a steady couple, it will never occur to my parents to question our sexual orientations. Melanie isn't a Bernese, but at least she's a tricolor canine breed of roughly similar size. So it's not like our children will look like a mongrel bred between a black Great Dane and an apricot Pekinese! It may be hard for them to accept that she isn't a Bernese, but I think a beautiful grandchild or two that they can get to know will mellow their attitude toward her and toward Ryan. And I think if they can get to know Melanie and Ryan as people, before they learn about our involvement with Wicca, that when they eventually do learn we aren't Christian, they might be able to accept that we are still good people."

"I'm afraid it's more likely to go the way it did for your brother," Melanie said sadly. "They knew your brother Manfred better than they are ever likely to know me. They knew they had raised him in their Christian faith, to be the kind of man they wanted him to be. Yet when he broke away from that one thing they believed in, suddenly they disowned him completely. I'll try it your way, if you want me to. I'll refrain from mentioning our faith to them, or from wearing Pagan jewelry when they might see it on me. I won't comment negatively about what they believe, if I can at all manage it. But I won't lie to them, Karl. I won't pretend to be a Christian. I can't do that. I wasn't raised with those beliefs, and I don't know Christian dogma enough to pretend that I was."

"I'm not asking you to lie to my parents, Melanie," Karl said. "I'm just asking you not to volunteer information that might harm their opinions of you, and not to correct them if they make assumptions in our favor. In their way of thinking, everyone is Christian unless they indicate otherwise. If we tell them we worship regularly with 'your congregation' here, they will assume we mean that we attend a Christian church. And a Coven is a congregation, isn't it? The words mean pretty much the same thing. It's just the words they expect."

"So you won't invite your parents to the handfasting, Karl?" Corwyn asked. "What about others in your family? Your brothers, perhaps?"

"Would you really want me to do something so potentially disruptive to your Coven?" Karl asked. "I have sent my parents an announcement that Melanie and I are formally engaged, and that we plan to wait at least a year before setting a wedding date. Given how my first marriage turned out, they won't see anything unusual about me taking a more deliberate and slow course to the altar the second time around. It's what I would have done for a Christian wedding, if my ex-wife's false pregnancy hadn't made us rush to marry. I've also sent invitations to our handfasting to both of my brothers, and I warned them that this will be a Wiccan cerenony, and that there will be a Druid handfasting at the same event that will involve nudity. Manfred and Samantha have called to say that plan to attend, and Bernard and Katheryn e-mailed me to confirm that they will also be here for us, but without their kids. They should all arrive on the 20th, the day before our handfasting, and stay through the 23rd, before flying back to their respective home towns. As far as my parents are concerned, my eldest brother and his wife will be attending a computer-related 'new product release event' just before Christmas, and will leave their kids with their grandparents while on that trip. Bernard and Katheryn will then join their kids and my parents for Christmas eve, after attending our handfasting."

"So I finally get to meet Uncle Manfred and Auntie Samantha? Wow! That's gonna be so great!" Hannah said happily. "And I really wanna see Uncle Bernard and Auntie Katheryn again. I just wish I could see my cousins, too."

"Bernard and Katheryn may bring your cousins here next summer for a vacation trip, if this visit goes well. Manfred and Samantha may join us then as well," Karl said. "Both of my brothers took it well that I'm becoming Wiccan. Manfred and Sammy have several Wiccan friends in California, and understand the faith fairly well; and Bernard and Katheryn know a Wiccan bulldog who works for Bernard as a computer repair technician, and know he's a good person. But it will be the first time for any of them to attend a Wiccan gathering. They promised to treat the occasion seriously, and to approach it with open minds."

"That's good! That's very good," Corwyn said. "And that covers the question of non-Pagan guests fairly well, unless there are any others?"

"None others that I am inviting. Aside from my co-workers at the investment firm, I don't really have any non-Pagan friends yet in this town, and I'm not close enough with my coworkers yet to know which of them to are safe to talk with about potentially sensitive topics like religion. And I'm certainly not inviting my ex wife."

"Karl dear, could you please tell us about your ex-wife?" Donna asked. "You said she tricked you into marrying her, and we understand you divorced her, but I'm not clear about why?"

"Yes, I'll tell you about her. I was almost done with my business and accounting BA degrees, and had two more years to go to get my MBA. I met Norma at a party at the college. She got me to tell her a lot about myself, but she didn't say very much about herself. About all I knew about her was that she was a purebred Bernese, like me, and that she was also a student at the college. After we'd both had several drinks, she got very affectionate, and she took me back to her dorm room, and we made love. She said I didn't need a condom. I was stupid enough and drunk enough to trust her and mate with her bareback, several times that night," Karl said. "Five weeks later she called and asked if I would meet her for lunch. When we met, she told me that her period was a week late, and that she hadn't slept with anyone else for the past two months. I didn't really stop to think - I just did what I felt was 'the right thing to do'. I paid for our lunch and took her straight to the courthouse and applied for a marriage license. That night I introduced her to my parents, telling them that I had been dating her for 'a while now'. We got married by a justice of the peace the next week, as soon as the three day waiting period had elapsed. The following weekend, we had our 'honeymoon' in a local hotel. But on our honeymoon night, before I made love to her, I could see clearly that her period had started again. We argued, and I was very angry with her. She tried to claim that her period really had been late. But the math didn't add up. Six weeks had gone by since the first time we mated, when she claimed I had impregnated her. If she wasn't pregnant, she would have had to have had at least one period between when we first mated and when she claimed to be 'a week late'. She insisted her period really had been that erratic, and pleaded for me to give her a chance, and not to divorce her or have our marriage annulled. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, mostly because my parents had really liked her. But I refused to mate with her without both contraceptive foam and a condom, after that."

"Oh my..." was all Donna could say.

"We got an apartment together, and she quit school and got a job as a waitress, to help pay her share of our bills. And she was certainly passionate in bed," Karl said. "But it soon became pretty clear that she had only been attending college to get her 'MRS Degree' - to latch onto a husband with good job prospects - someone like me. She had no real job skills - no ambitions other than to become a wife and a mother. After we had been married for about a year, she convinced me to try making a child with her. She quit her job when she was six months pregnant with Hans, and he was born just a few months before I graduated with my MBA and went to work full time. We bought a small house, and while money was tight for a while, it looked like we could make it work."

"We quickly befriended our neighbors on both sides of our new house. Roger Evans was one of those neighbors, a programmer who worked a night shift. He was single and had a swimming pool and threw great parties on the weekends. I soon felt he was my best friend. But that summer, while I was at work, my wife cheated on me, and had an affair with Roger. But she wasn't on the pill, because she was nursing our son, and she wanted us to try to give Hans a baby sister or brother. And she still loved bareback sex. By Christmas, Roger managed to knock her up, while I thought I was the one who had impregnated her. But my wife's infidelity became crystal clear when Hans' half-sister was born. I was there in the operating room, holding my wife's hand when the baby was delivered, and I couldn't believe my eyes when the confused-looking nurse cleaned the baby up and offered her to me to hold. She didn't look at all like a Bernese Mountain Dog puppy. She had red gold colored fur, a snub nose, and her tongue was blue-black. I'm a purebred Bernese and so was Norma, so there was no way I could have been the father. But Roger was a purebred Chow Chow Dog, and the baby girl my wife gave birth to clearly had one parent who was a Chow Chow Dog. I quickly won an uncontested divorce, with sole legal and physical custody of Hans, and she got sole legal and physical custody of the baby girl, who she named Marie, and married the child's real father. Roger formally adopted Marie, and gave her his last name. Norma voluntarily waived her visitation rights with Hans, so we didn't have to subject Hans to being shuttled back and forth between our homes. If she wants to visit Hans, she knows that I will allow her to visit Hans in our home, or at a neutral place, like a restaurant, as long as I am also with Hans. But she's never asked to see her son since our divorce. They moved to another town ten months later, when Hans was only two, so Hans never got to know his half-sister. Our only contact with them now is that Norma sends Hans a card and present for his birthday and for Christmas, every year, and I allow him to send his mother similar cards and presents, as well as recent photos of himself. "

"That's a real shame, Karl," Corwyn said. "That experience hasn't caused problems with you and Melanie though, has it? I mean, with her wanting to mate with others, and to share you with others in bed?"

"What hurt was the lies and deception," Karl said. "Melanie has never lied to me or done anything behind my back, and I don't believe she ever would. Not about anything serious. If Norma had admitted she wanted an open marriage and wanted to do a threesome with Roger, I might have even accepted that, as long as he didn't get her pregnant. It would have been very awkward for me to do a threesome involving another male, but I might have allowed that, if she would have been equally open to me inviting another female to a threesome with her at some point. We might have worked something out, if she had been honest with me. Melanie is nothing like Norma was, and I won't let Norma's betrayal of my trust poison my relationship with Melanie. I'm taking it a lot slower with her than I did with Norma, and taking my time to get to know Melanie as a person, before I commit to marrying her. And so far, I do love and trust Melanie, as a friend and as a good person, and I'm not solely attracted to her because she is so passionate in bed. I do believe Melanie can be the life-long mate I hoped to find in my first marriage, and I'm certain she can be a good mother to my son."

"You've had a lot to deal with, Karl, and I'd say you're recovering well from how life has treated you in the past. Is there anything else you want to talk to us about, before we sit down and work out the final details for your handfasting ceremony?" Corwyn asked. "Any questions about Wicca or our beliefs?"

"I think Hans and I are good on the religious aspects of all this. Andrew and Colleen have been very good instructors when it comes to teaching us about Wicca, and I think my son and I are both comfortable with your beliefs now and willing to consider ourselves Wiccans. If there is any formal step that we need to take to make our membership official within your coven, I suppose we should discuss that," Karl said.

"You can make a public declaration at Yule, of you want to," Corwyn said. "But the coven already accepts both of you as members."

Karl nodded. "Thank you. I think we will want to do that, just to make our dedication clear. But there is one other matter, in terms of personal relationships, that I want the two of you to be aware of, and that our kids already know and accept. I mentioned that Melanie invited Mossflower Nicolle and her mate, Dianna Farrell to do a foursome with Melanie and I, and that I've had sex with both Mossflower and Dianna. That was two months ago. What I didn't say was that our primarily Lesbian friends made me an unusual offer. Dianna offered me the chance to take her virginity, and to be the only male she would mate with, if I would agree to try to impregnate her, and to allow them to keep the child and raise it themselves. They would decline to name the father of the child when the baby's birth is registered, and would make no claims on me for support, publicly or privately. Melanie supported their requests, and wanted her friends to have a baby. Our kids also accepted that this was okay with them. So I accepted their offer, and for two months we mated with each other as a foursome fairly often, and Dianna came to our home during the day almost every day when she was at her most fertile, to mate more often with me. They just told us last night that she tested positive. Dianna is pregnant now, with my child."

"Oh? Well... I see no reason why they won't make fine parents. Will you be a part of the child's life, at least privately? Do you ever plan to let the child know who their father is?" Corwyn asked.

"Mossflower and Dianna have agreed to be 'godparents' to Hans and Ryan. Melanie and I will return the favor for their child when he or she is born. It makes sense, with the close friendship between Mossy and Melanie. That will be the extent of our public relationship, unless the child is so obviously like me in appearance that there can be no hiding it. Dianna believes her Samoyed heritage will force the child's fur to be snow white, and a Bernese has a close enough body structure to a Samoyed and to several other breeds that without the tricolor markings as a 'tell', it shouldn't be too obvious that the child's father was a Bernese. The child I sired on Dianna will know me as their god father, until they are old enough to be told our true relationship - probably as a teenager. Then we do plan to privately let them know I am their real father, and why they were raised by two Lesbians, without me as a father figure."

"Sounds like you have worked that out quite soundly between each other. And congratulations, I guess, on your new offspring. I hope you'll bless Melanie with a child soon as well?" Donna said. "It certainly sounds like your fertility is good."

"We're still discussing the timing, but it is likely, yes," Karl said with a grin. "I'll want to start trying late enough in the handfasting that if she does get pregnant, we can be married before the child is born. I don't want the child to be illegitimate. But yes, unless something drastic changes in our relationship, and if the Goddess chooses to bless us with a child, she should have a swelling belly well before our handfasting ends."

"Very good! Well, let's get those final details worked out, shall we?" Corwyn said.

"Can we play a video game while you do that?" Hannah asked.

"Yes, but keep the volume down, and stay close, children," Donna said. "We will want your input too, since this will now be your handfasting as well!"